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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:14 pm

Well liquiphites would probably be like plankton and therefor be somewhat specific to certain water types. And since we have currents we're going to have different water temperatures all over the place.

I think an animal that feeds on just about anything (feed-able by ship's stores) and is equipped with a social nature would make it much more plausible.
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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:17 pm

I don't really image liquiphites as plankton.
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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:23 pm

Why not? They're photosynthesizers (or what ever it is for Novuvsita), drift in the ocean, depend on currents to supply nutrients, and are completely at the mercy of currents not to take them into near freezing or scorching waters.
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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:43 pm

Not all liquiphites are tiny little things.
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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:50 pm

So big mats or blobs? Strands? Either way they're left to the mercy of the currents.
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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:32 pm

They use photosynthesis. How could they live if they weren't on or near the surface?
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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:34 pm

I know next to nothing about creatures, especially ones from other planets, but I suppose they would differ in size and shape, most being either globular or sheetlike, Much like Jelly fish I am guessing, Jelly fish but not really jelly fish... Oh dear, I think I have confused my self...
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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:40 pm

*Xeno* I never said they weren't going to be near the surface, just that they, like Earth plankton would be subject to the currents, surface currents. Perhaps a filter feeder could work, this is science-fiction after all...

*Balu* It happens to all of us, most of the time in fact.
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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:56 pm

Me: "Small liquiphites which float on the surface of the water."

Then you said some other stuff which had little to do with this.

Me: "They use photosynthesis. How could they live if they weren't on or near the surface?"

So... yeah. That made little to no sense.
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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:08 pm

Okay, scratch everything I've said so far in this conversation. Lets just wing it and realism (or what ever I've been saying) be damned.
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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:13 am

Only some Liquiphites photosinthesize. The said species eaten by the seahorse-things are brobably mat-like green blobs floating on the ocean surface, probably most prominent in warmer waters.
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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:22 am

Which would be larger or smaller in proportional ocean area than on Earth?
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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:31 am

I'm not entirely sure I know what you mean. Erm...
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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:46 am

Would the ratio of "warmer" water to "colder" water in Novusvita's total ocean area be larger than Earth's?
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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:51 am

I honestly do not know... I think I quickly need to work out a rough current system.

Would Novusvita spin in the same direction as Earth?
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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:54 am

I don't know if it matters.
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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:03 am

Meh.
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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:23 pm

It does.
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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:07 pm

How so?
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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:44 pm

Yes, please explain.
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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:16 pm

Well, Coriolis effect should be a good answer.
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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:51 pm

Oh, yeah. True.
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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:00 am

Ah, I see. Not sure if these currents are flowing in the wrong direction then:

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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:04 am

Something I hadn't brought up before because I hadn't seen the map:

It seems like water shortages would become a problem in the future.
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PostSubject: Re: Novuvsita Timeline of Major Events (But for now I need more information)   Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:32 am

What do you mean?



Anyway, it's seriously time to get back on topic:

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If Dudeman you need me to change things, edit things, or spew blasphemy at me for this, please notify me.

But I can't form much a timeline.



  • Do the Xen'Vi have knowledge of Gunpowder? The equivalent, yes.
  • What are the dates of eveything? No idea. The year system won't be in Earth years anyway.
  • What sort of mass extinctions occured? Asteroid impacts, majour solar flares, majour ocean current disturbances due to important channels opening or closing due to plate tectonics, super volcanoes, ice ages, global warming periods, etc.
  • How far have the Xen'Vi advanced into colonialism? (They must have started Colonialism considering the types of empires they have.) What?
  • May I go ahead and form my own ideas on how the Probing and Civilizations worked once you tell me their equvialent stage in history? (As in are they Tech wise in Antiquity or Medieval times or Napoleonic? Personally I favor 1500-1700's as a nice point of tech to work with in making stories since its such a time of rapid change.) We've allready established much of this, though the majour issue I have with your general interperatation is that the Jay'vi are the second most advanced - They're not. The only things they have that may make them seem advanced are guns. Here are all the clans ordered (from lowest to highest) in technological, coltural and intelectual advancement:
  • Technological: Qui'a; Oijah; Col'tun; Svia; Tita; Jay; Aari; Valiero; Iga.
  • Coltural: Col'tun; Tita; Iga; Oijah; Svia; Qui'a; Aari; Jay; Valiero.
  • Intelectual: Qui'a; Col'tun; Tita; Jay; Aari; Svia; Iga; Valiero; Oijah.



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Date: Event:

, Agol System Forms from Nebula, planets including Novuvsita form amid turmoil

, Life arises on Novuvsita from ? (Seeded, spontaneous?) It originally originated on Novusvita at a subterranean level, mainly from hydrogen and sulphur compunds. Early Novusvitan life was bound to a subterranean level due to direct sunlight breaking down their molecular compounds.

, Compound harvesting allows first organisms to exist in direct sunlight.

, Compound harvesting leads independantly to Minerallians and the precursers to the first Imperia.

, Imperia evolve, initially as organelle clumps within Liquiphites. Eventually said Liquiphites become vestages and eventually first cells no longer need Liquiphite boddies to survive.

, First multicellular life forms through cell herding and later cell colonies. Gradually Imperial life becomes larger and larger.

, First Disymmetra form.

, Duososida evolve.


, Sentient Xen'Vi for the first time make use of fashioned tools in Xena

, Xen'Vi begin agriculture and domestication of certain flora and animals

, Xen'vi spread to much of Novusvita, first seperate nations form.

, Precurser Iga'vi nation forms in central Gharo'zaghira, precurser Valiero'vi nation forms in Cyro'bar.

, Precurser Iga nation spreads northward, taking over smaller nations and tribes. First Iga civil war breaks out, (original) southern part of nation breaks off and forms Jay'vi.

, Iga becomes gigantic empire, war with Valiero. Iga defeats Valiero and takes west of Valiero territory.

, Second Iga civil war, rebels cast out into the mountains to die. Rebels form Oijah'vi in secrecy and find something in the vast mountain cave systems.

2217, Humans first discover Novuvsita using probes, further probes discover life from orbit

, Probes are sent to surface and find complex life in large amounts, probes lost one by one to terrain, weather and wildlife (I never said this, but okay.)

2229, Manned ships enter Agol System and launch landing parties, small colonies built in Northern hemisphere, first Human to Xen'Vi contact initiated. God/Demon-like status given to alien Humans

, ?
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